With Regan Archibald, Episode 118
What You’ll Learn
- Peptides by decade: How to choose peptides for your 20s (IGF-1, Thymosin Beta-4), 30s (Cerebrolysin, Selanc), 40s (Kisspeptin, BPC-157), 50s (Thymosin Alpha-1, KPV), and 60s+ (growth hormone-releasing peptides) [14:37]
- Eastern herbs amplify peptides: Cordyceps and He Shou Wu synchronize with peptide protocols for longevity, blood health, and enhanced cognition [10:06]
- MOTS-C from sauna: This mitochondrial peptide is naturally released during heat exposure and amplifies mitochondrial health when combined with sauna practice [11:00]
- Blood lab essentials: The most important biomarkers to test on a budget: homocysteine, liver enzymes, hemoglobin A1C, iron, testosterone, estradiol, and progesterone [31:05]
- Intuitive diagnostics: Using clinical intuition as a lens to integrate lab results and choose the right treatment path [22:45]
- Stem cell rejuvenation: How stem cells activate resident cells, send signals through vesicles and peptides, and show promise in reversing aging effects [41:00]
- SphenoCath delivery device: An innovative stem cell delivery system that targets the central nervous system through the sphenopalatine ganglion [43:23]
- Regan’s non-negotiables: The daily health practices and bioharmony principles he follows after decades of clinical practice [03:52]
- Early cancer detection: Advanced tests that detect cancer and assess vascular health for early intervention, going beyond standard panels [27:20]
Why It Matters
Most peptide conversations focus on a single compound or category. Regan Archibald bridges two worlds that are usually kept separate: ancient Eastern medicine (acupuncture, Chinese herbs, Taoism) and cutting-edge Western regenerative medicine (peptides, stem cells, advanced diagnostics). His decade-by-decade peptide framework gives listeners a practical roadmap instead of random compound names. His emphasis on comprehensive bloodwork and intuitive diagnostics also challenges the “more data is always better” mindset by showing how experienced clinicians use pattern recognition alongside lab results.
Who Should Listen
- Anyone curious about peptides who wants a structured, age-based framework rather than a random list of compounds
- Biohackers interested in combining traditional Chinese medicine and herbal protocols with modern peptide and stem cell therapies
- People who want to understand which blood tests actually matter and how to interpret them beyond reference ranges
Peptides, Stem Cells & Eastern Medicine
Regan Archibald, LAc, FMP, founder of East West Health and one of the world’s leading peptide experts, joins Nick Urban to share his integrated approach to health optimization. Regan opens by describing his non-negotiable daily practices and how growing up on a ranch shaped his understanding of bioharmony. He then walks through a decade-by-decade peptide framework: IGF-1 and Thymosin Beta-4 for foundational health in your 20s, Cerebrolysin and Selanc for cognitive enhancement in your 30s, BPC-157 and Kisspeptin for immune and hormonal optimization in your 40s, Thymosin Alpha-1 and KPV for gut health in your 50s, and growth hormone-releasing peptides for mitochondrial support from your 60s onward.
The conversation shifts to how Eastern therapies like cordyceps, He Shou Wu, acupuncture, and tuina complement these Western protocols. Regan explains how cordyceps synchronizes with peptides for longevity and how the MOTS-C peptide is naturally released during sauna sessions, amplifying mitochondrial health. He then covers the importance of comprehensive blood panels, highlighting key biomarkers including homocysteine, hemoglobin A1C, liver enzymes, iron, testosterone, estradiol, and progesterone. He makes a case for using clinical intuition alongside data to guide treatment decisions.
The final act explores stem cell rejuvenation, including how stem cells communicate through vesicles and peptides to upgrade cellular DNA. Regan describes the SphenoCath device for delivering stem cells to the central nervous system and discusses an endurance peptide that improves athletic performance while reducing pain. The episode closes with Regan’s book recommendations, including The Creative Act by Rick Rubin, The Rise of Superman, and the Tao Te Ching.
Key Terms Quick Reference
[14:37] IGF-1 (Insulin-like Growth Factor 1)
A peptide that supports cognition, athleticism, and fat burning. Regan recommends it as part of the foundational peptide stack for people in their 20s building their health base.
[11:00] MOTS-C
A mitochondrial-derived peptide naturally released during sauna exposure. It amplifies mitochondrial health and energy production. Regan uses it alongside heat therapy protocols.
[10:06] Cordyceps
An Eastern medicinal mushroom that synchronizes with peptide protocols for longevity and blood health. Part of Regan’s integrated East-West approach to health optimization.
[14:37] He Shou Wu
A traditional Chinese herb also known as Fo-Ti. Regan pairs it with IGF-1 for enhanced cognition, athleticism, and longevity support across life stages.
[31:05] Homocysteine
An amino acid biomarker for cardiovascular and neurological health. Elevated levels indicate methylation issues and increased disease risk. One of Regan’s top-priority blood markers.
[41:00] Stem Cell Rejuvenation
A regenerative therapy that activates resident stem cells to slow aging. Stem cells send signals through vesicles or peptides to upgrade DNA and improve cellular communication.
[43:23] SphenoCath
A delivery device that targets the sphenopalatine ganglion to deliver stem cells and therapeutics directly to the central nervous system for neurological regeneration.
How Do Peptides Change by Decade of Life?
The short answer
Your body’s needs shift every decade, and so should your peptide protocol. Foundational peptides (IGF-1, Thymosin Beta-4) in your 20s, cognitive enhancers (Cerebrolysin, Selanc) in your 30s, immune and hormonal support (Kisspeptin, BPC-157) in your 40s, gut repair and immune peptides (Thymosin Alpha-1, KPV) in your 50s, and mitochondrial support peptides from your 60s onward.
What Archibald found
Through his clinical work at East West Health, Regan has observed that peptide needs are not one-size-fits-all. In your 20s, the priority is building a foundation: sleep, energy, and body recovery using peptides like IGF-1 and Thymosin Beta-4. By your 30s, cognitive enhancement becomes valuable, and peptides like Cerebrolysin and Selanc support brain function while Cermorellin and Testamerellin help build muscle mass for the decades ahead. The 40s bring a need for immune system upgrades and hormone optimization through growth hormone-releasing peptides, Kisspeptin, and A-290, alongside digestive support from BPC-157 and LL-37. In your 50s, the focus shifts to immune enhancement and gut health with Thymosin Alpha-1, BPC-157, KPV, and Sarcotropin for muscle mass preservation. From 60 onward, growth hormone-releasing peptides and mitochondrial health peptides become the priority.
What to do about it
Identify which decade you are in and start with the corresponding peptide priorities. Get comprehensive bloodwork first to establish your baseline. Work with a peptide-knowledgeable practitioner who understands the age-based framework rather than prescribing the same compounds to everyone. Pair peptide protocols with Eastern herbs (cordyceps, He Shou Wu) to amplify their effects.
“In your 20s, you’re getting your foundation, get your endurance built, get a nice base in your 30s, and get some great muscle mass built up because that’s what you’re going to take in your 40s and 50s.” – Regan Archibald
Related: Best Therapeutic Peptides
How Do Eastern Herbs Amplify Peptide Protocols?
The short answer
Eastern herbs like cordyceps and He Shou Wu work synergistically with peptides by supporting the same biological pathways from a different angle. Cordyceps enhances blood health and longevity alongside peptide protocols, while He Shou Wu amplifies the cognition and fat-burning effects of IGF-1.
What Archibald found
Regan’s unique background in both acupuncture and functional medicine gives him a perspective most peptide practitioners lack. He has found that Eastern therapies like acupuncture, tuina, and Chinese herbs activate the nervous system, promote relaxation, improve blood circulation, and accelerate healing. When combined with peptides, these therapies create a synergy that neither approach achieves alone. Cordyceps, a medicinal mushroom used for centuries in Chinese medicine, synchronizes with peptides for longevity and blood health. He Shou Wu pairs with IGF-1 for enhanced cognition and athleticism. Acupuncture itself helps the body achieve harmony between the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems, creating the physiological environment where peptides work most effectively.
What to do about it
If you are already using or considering peptides, explore adding Eastern herbs to your protocol. Cordyceps and He Shou Wu are widely available and well-tolerated. Consider acupuncture as a complementary therapy to optimize nervous system balance, which improves how your body responds to peptide signaling. Work with a practitioner who understands both systems, or find separate practitioners who are willing to coordinate.
“The body can achieve harmony between its sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems through Eastern therapy, resulting in favorable physiological responses.” – Regan Archibald
What Blood Tests Should You Prioritize?
The short answer
Regan’s must-test biomarkers include homocysteine, liver enzymes, hemoglobin A1C, iron levels, testosterone, estradiol, and progesterone. Even on a limited budget, these markers reveal the most about overall health status.
What Archibald found
After years of running comprehensive panels at East West Health, Regan has identified the biomarkers that provide the highest diagnostic yield. Homocysteine reveals methylation status and cardiovascular risk. Liver enzymes show detoxification capacity and organ health. Hemoglobin A1C exposes long-term blood sugar regulation issues that fasting glucose alone misses. Iron levels (both high and low) affect energy, cognition, and immune function. Testosterone, estradiol, and progesterone together paint the hormonal picture for both men and women. He also recommends advanced tests that can detect cancer and assess vascular health for early intervention, going beyond what standard panels offer. Critically, Regan advocates using clinical intuition alongside data, reading patterns across markers rather than treating each number in isolation.
What to do about it
Request these specific markers on your next blood panel: homocysteine, comprehensive metabolic panel (includes liver enzymes), hemoglobin A1C, iron panel with ferritin, total and free testosterone, estradiol, and progesterone. If your budget allows, add advanced vascular and cancer screening markers. Find a practitioner who interprets results using optimal ranges (not just “normal” reference ranges) and who considers the relationships between markers rather than viewing each in isolation.
“Stem Cell Rejuvenation has proven to be one of the most effective methods in reversing the signs of aging in our clients.” – Regan Archibald
Archibald’s Integrative Health Protocol
- Get comprehensive bloodwork: homocysteine, liver enzymes, hemoglobin A1C, iron panel, testosterone, estradiol, progesterone
- Identify your decade and match peptide priorities (20s: IGF-1, Thymosin Beta-4; 30s: Cerebrolysin, Selanc; 40s: Kisspeptin, BPC-157; 50s: Thymosin Alpha-1, KPV; 60s+: GH-releasing peptides)
- Add Eastern herbs: cordyceps for longevity and blood health, He Shou Wu for cognition and fat burning
- Incorporate acupuncture or tuina to balance the autonomic nervous system and create optimal conditions for peptide signaling
- Explore stem cell therapy if dealing with significant aging or neurological concerns, especially SphenoCath delivery for CNS access
- Use sauna protocols to naturally trigger MOTS-C release for mitochondrial health
- Retest bloodwork every 3 to 6 months and adjust protocols based on biomarker trends, not single snapshots
Common mistakes
- Using the same peptides regardless of age (needs change significantly by decade)
- Ignoring Eastern herbs and therapies that amplify peptide effectiveness
- Relying only on standard reference ranges instead of optimal ranges for blood biomarkers
- Skipping comprehensive bloodwork before starting peptide protocols
- Treating blood markers in isolation rather than looking for patterns across the full panel
Source: Regan Archibald’s Regenerative Medicine Protocol, East West Health
Frequently Asked Questions
What peptides should I take in my 20s?
Regan Archibald recommends focusing on sleep, energy, and body recovery with peptides like IGF-1 and Thymosin Beta-4 in your 20s. This builds the foundational health you will rely on in later decades.
How does acupuncture complement peptide therapy?
Acupuncture helps the body achieve harmony between the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems. This creates the physiological environment where peptide signaling works most effectively, resulting in favorable physiological responses.
What are the most important blood tests to get?
Regan prioritizes homocysteine, liver enzymes, hemoglobin A1C, iron levels, testosterone, estradiol, and progesterone. These markers reveal the most about overall health status, even on a limited budget.
What is stem cell rejuvenation?
Stem cell therapy activates resident stem cells to slow down the aging process. Stem cells send signals through vesicles or peptides to upgrade DNA in cells and improve cellular communication, showing promise in reversing aging effects.
What is the SphenoCath device?
SphenoCath is a delivery device that targets the sphenopalatine ganglion to deliver stem cells and therapeutics directly to the central nervous system. This enables neurological regeneration that systemic delivery cannot achieve.
Does cordyceps work with peptides?
Yes. Regan Archibald uses cordyceps alongside peptide protocols for synergistic effects on longevity and blood health. Eastern herbal medicine like cordyceps synchronizes with the power of peptides in ways that neither approach achieves alone.
Is MOTS-C released naturally in the body?
Yes. MOTS-C is a mitochondrial-derived peptide that is naturally released during heat exposure, such as sauna use. It amplifies mitochondrial health and energy production. Sauna protocols can trigger its natural release.
What is BPC-157 used for?
BPC-157 is a healing peptide used for digestive health, gut repair, and immune support. Regan recommends it starting in the 40s alongside LL-37 for digestive health improvement, and continuing into the 50s for gut health and immune enhancement.
Products, Tools & Resources Mentioned
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Peptide courses & suppliers
Peptide Mastery Course: Regan Archibald’s comprehensive peptide education program covering protocols, dosing, and integration with Eastern medicine.
LVLUP Health: Peptide supplier recommended for quality and purity testing.
Limitless Life Nootropics: Source for research peptides and nootropic compounds.
Books mentioned
The Peptide Blueprint by Regan Archibald: Regan’s guide to achieving optimal health and performance through peptide protocols.
Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity by Peter Attia: Referenced by Regan when discussing the health decline in the last decade of life.
Are Your Prescriptions Killing You? by Armon B. Neel Jr.: Exposes the dangers of over-medicating elderly populations.
The Creative Act: A Way of Being by Rick Rubin: One of Regan’s favorite books on creativity and consciousness.
The Rise of Superman by Steven Kotler: Insights into human evolution, flow states, and peak performance.
Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu: The foundational Taoist text that informs Regan’s Eastern medicine philosophy.
Mitochondria and The Future of Medicine: The key to understanding disease, chronic illness, aging, and life itself.
Harnessing the Nine Hallmarks of Aging: A guide to living your healthiest life by understanding the biological mechanisms of aging.
The Inner Athlete by Dan Millman: Realizing your fullest potential through inner work.
Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Noah Harari: Referenced in the conversation about human evolution and health.
Outliyr articles
Top Online Peptide Companies: Comprehensive guide to sourcing quality peptides.
Best Peptides for Hair, Muscle Growth, Fat Loss, Energy & Athletic Performance: Full peptide reference guide.
Biohacks to Optimize Mitochondrial Health: Supplements, diet, and lifestyle strategies for mitochondrial function.
Other references
Lao Tzu: Ancient Chinese philosopher and author of the Tao Te Ching, whose work informs Regan’s integrative approach.
About Regan Archibald
Regan Archibald, LAc, FMP, is a renowned peptide specialist and founder of East West Health and Integrated Pain Specialists. With a trailblazing approach to health, Regan merges acupuncture, regenerative medicine, and functional medicine through his Medically Managed Peptide Program at East West Health. As the creator of the Health Accelerator Course, he engages over 1,000 members weekly in transformative sessions and hosts the podcast Never Stop Healing. He is a member of the International Peptide Society and the author of eight books, including The Peptide Blueprint. Beyond his expertise, you will find Regan conquering Wasatch mountains, indulging in ice baths, and infusing artistry into medicine, all while cherishing moments with his wife Jessica and three kids.
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Full Episode Transcript
Nick Urban [00:00:00]: Hello everyone and welcome to episode number 118 of Mind Body Peak Performance with your host, Nick Urban. Thanks for tuning in today. Today we’re talking with a man whose work I have followed for a while. That’s because he’s one of the few people that’s actually combining the ancestral wisdom with the cutting edge peptides, nootropics, bioregulators, and overall regenerative medicine. Regan Archibald is one of the world’s leading peptide experts. He also serves as a regenerative therapy and peptide consultant at his award winning clinic he founded in 2004, which is called East West Health, and he created the Peptide Mastery course. Regan is a member of the International Peptide Society and the author of eight books, including the recently released book called The Peptide Blueprint. In my chat with Regan, we talk a lot more about peptides and some of the adjacent fields. There was so much to cover in the limited time we had together, but I wanted to bring some novel information I haven’t heard elsewhere, including some peptides that I have not heard discussed elsewhere. We also talk about the importance of diagnostics, the most important blood labs to get even if you have a very limited budget and a whole lot more, no matter your level of mastery over health and wellness topics. There is something in this conversation for everyone. If you’re interested in checking out his work, the links to all of his socials, his books, his course will all be in the description below. You can find the show notes and all of that at outliyr.com, the number 118. If you find this information helpful, go ahead and share it with a friend, a family member, a loved one that you think could benefit from this information. Thanks for tuning in. Now sit back, relax and enjoy this conversation with Regan Archibald.
Nick Urban [00:02:16]: Regan, welcome to Mind Body Peak Performance.
Regan Archibald [00:02:17]: Nice to be here Nick.
Nick Urban [00:02:18]: It is an honor to host you and today we are going to talk about all kinds of things that are all in your wheelhouse, including stem cells, functional testing, peptides and a whole lot more. Let’s start off with a controversial idea or a stat or fact you have that relates to your line of work.
Regan Archibald [00:02:37]: I think probably a controversial idea is I believe that the next decade can be your healthiest decade and actually your last decade could be your best decade. If you read Peter Attia’s book Outlive, he talks about this cliff that people go off at the end of life and so the last ten years essentially people are in the waiting room just hoping the grim reaper takes them sooner rather than later. And I think it’s inhumane. Most people, if you’ve read the book, Are Your Prescriptions Killing Me, it’s very obvious that we are probably sedating our elderly population and over medicating them.
Nick Urban [00:03:52]: Regan, before we get into the science and the clinical stuff, what are the things that you do on a daily basis that are nonnegotiables for you?
Regan Archibald [00:03:59]: Yeah, so I’d say number one for me is acupuncture. I get acupuncture every week. I also practice what we call qi gong, which is a form of Chinese breathing exercises, some movement, some meditation. I also spend time in a cold plunge and a sauna. Those are my nonnegotiables. And then peptides are a big part of my daily health routine as well.
Nick Urban [00:05:59]: Tell me a bit about your background. I know you grew up on a ranch and that shaped a lot of how you think about health.
Regan Archibald [00:06:05]: Yeah, I grew up on a ranch in rural Utah and that really gave me this deep connection with nature and understanding of how the body is meant to function. When you’re out working on a ranch, you see the cycles of nature and how everything is interconnected. That’s what eventually led me to study Chinese medicine and then later integrate it with functional medicine and peptides. I saw that you could take the best of Eastern wisdom, things that have worked for thousands of years, and combine them with the cutting edge science of peptides and regenerative medicine.
Nick Urban [00:10:06]: Let’s talk about how you integrate Eastern herbal medicine with peptides. What are some of the combinations that you’ve found work well together?
Regan Archibald [00:10:15]: One of the things that I love is cordyceps. Cordyceps is this incredible medicinal mushroom that has been used in Chinese medicine for centuries. When you pair it with certain peptides, you get this synergistic effect on longevity and blood health. Another one is He Shou Wu, which works beautifully with IGF-1 for enhanced cognition, athleticism, and fat burning. The Eastern herbs prepare the terrain, if you will, and then the peptides come in and do their targeted work much more effectively.
Nick Urban [00:11:00]: What about MOTS-C? I know that’s one you’re excited about.
Regan Archibald [00:11:05]: MOTS-C is fascinating because it’s actually released when you’re in a sauna. It’s a mitochondrial peptide that amplifies mitochondrial health. So when I’m in my sauna doing my daily practice, my body is naturally producing this peptide that’s enhancing my mitochondrial function. You can also supplement with it directly, and the combination of heat therapy plus supplemental MOTS-C is very powerful.
Nick Urban [00:14:37]: Walk us through your decade-by-decade peptide framework.
Regan Archibald [00:14:45]: Sure. So in your 20s, you’re getting your foundation. Focus on sleep, energy, and body recovery with peptides like IGF-1 and Thymosin Beta-4. These are going to help you build that base. In your 30s, consider enhancement peptides like Cerebrolysin and Selanc for cognitive function. Also upgrade to peptides like Cermorellin and Testamerellin for muscle mass because that’s what you’re going to take into your 40s and 50s. In your 40s, prioritize immune system upgrade and hormone optimization with growth hormone-releasing peptides, Kisspeptin, and A-290. Improve digestive health with BPC-157 and LL-37. In your 50s, continue immune enhancements and gut health with Thymosin Alpha-1, BPC-157, and KPV. Address muscle mass loss with Sarcotropin. And from your 60s onward, use growth hormone-releasing peptides and peptides for mitochondrial health.
Nick Urban [00:20:51]: Let’s shift to diagnostics. What blood labs do you recommend people get?
Regan Archibald [00:21:00]: I think comprehensive blood work is essential before starting any protocol. Even on a limited budget, there are certain markers you absolutely need. I always recommend a full metabolic panel, but the markers I really focus on are homocysteine, liver enzymes, hemoglobin A1C, iron levels, testosterone, estradiol, and progesterone. These tell you more about overall health than almost anything else.
Nick Urban [00:22:45]: How do you use intuition alongside all this data?
Regan Archibald [00:22:52]: That’s a great question. In Chinese medicine, we’re taught to read the whole person, not just the numbers. I use my clinical intuition as a lens to integrate the lab results. Sometimes the numbers look fine but the pattern tells a different story. And sometimes a single marker is off but the whole picture shows the person is actually doing well. It’s about seeing the relationships between markers and between the person’s symptoms, their constitution, and their goals.
Nick Urban [00:27:20]: What about more advanced tests?
Regan Archibald [00:27:28]: There are some incredible advanced tests now that can detect cancer early and assess vascular health for early intervention. These go well beyond standard panels and can catch things years before they become symptomatic. I recommend these for anyone who can afford them, especially as you move into your 40s and beyond.
Nick Urban [00:41:00]: Let’s talk about stem cells. How are you using them at your clinic?
Regan Archibald [00:41:08]: Stem cell rejuvenation has proven to be one of the most effective methods in reversing the signs of aging in our clients. What stem cells do is they activate resident stem cells to slow down the aging process. They send signals through vesicles or peptides to upgrade DNA in cells and improve communication. It’s like upgrading the operating system of your cells.
Nick Urban [00:43:23]: What is the SphenoCath device?
Regan Archibald [00:43:30]: The SphenoCath is a really innovative delivery device. It targets the sphenopalatine ganglion, which gives you direct access to the central nervous system. We can deliver stem cells and other therapeutics through it and get them where they need to go for neurological regeneration. It’s been a game changer for some of our patients with neurological conditions.
Nick Urban [00:52:28]: You mentioned an endurance peptide earlier. Can you tell us more about that?
Regan Archibald [00:52:35]: There’s a peptide that improves performance and reduces pain. It’s particularly interesting for athletes and active people because it addresses both performance output and recovery. We’re seeing some really promising results with it in our clinic.
Nick Urban [01:01:05]: How can people connect with you and learn more about your work?
Regan Archibald [01:01:12]: The best place is gowellness.com. You can find the Peptide Mastery Course there, and also information about East West Health and our clinic. And of course, my book The Peptide Blueprint is available on Amazon.
Nick Urban [01:02:26]: What books have influenced you the most?
Regan Archibald [01:02:32]: I’d say The Creative Act by Rick Rubin is incredible. The Rise of Superman by Steven Kotler for understanding flow states. And of course, the Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu, which really forms the philosophical foundation for my approach to medicine. Also Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari gave me a broader perspective on human health and evolution.
Nick Urban [01:03:45]: Rapid fire time. How do you enter and sustain a flow state?
Regan Archibald [01:03:50]: Qi gong in the morning, cold plunge, and then I make sure I’m working on something that challenges me. The combination of physical activation and meaningful work puts me right into flow. I hope that this has been helpful for you. If you enjoyed it, subscribe and hit the thumbs up. I love knowing who’s in the 1% committed to reaching their full potential. Comment 1% below so that I know who you are. For all the resources and links, meet me on my website at outliyr.com. I appreciate you and look forward to connecting with you.
